Investment Banking Hours: What to Expect and Why You Work So Much (2024)

I never thought I would write about investment banking hours yet again.

We’ve covered this topic multiple times in the past, including in the articles on IB Analysts, Associates, VPs, MDs, and so on.

But every few years, a new controversy goes viral on social media, and the world at large says, “Wait, do you really work that much in investment banking? How are those hours legal?!!”

In case you have been offline for the past week, an “internal presentation” based on survey responses from 13 Analysts at Goldman Sachs made the rounds last week.

The headline numbers in the presentation for 1st Year Analysts were as follows:

  • Average Hours Worked in the Past Week: 105
  • Average Hours Worked per Week Over the Past ~2 Months: 98
  • Average Hours Slept per Night: 5
  • Average Time to Sleep: 3 AM

The unstated claim here is something like: “Yes, investment banking hours are always bad, and we knew that going into the job, but work-from-home policies during the pandemic have made the hours unbearable and inhumane.”

I’m going to start with my quick take on the presentation, explain why IB hours, even in “normal times,” are bad, and then suggest a few possible solutions to the current problems:

My Quick Take on Investment Banking Hours in Pandemic Times

The short version here is:

  1. Yes, investment banking hours, especially in your first year or two, are always bad (think: 70-80 hours in the office per week).
  2. But junior bankers also tend to exaggerate their hours, often by not subtracting downtime or breaks during the day.
  3. And contrary to expectations, working from home has made the hours worse than usual, to the point where many people are getting burned out and leaving.
  4. But you should keep in mind that this “presentation” is based on responses from only 13 Analysts. For context, Goldman Sachs hires hundreds of IB Analysts each year, and there are several thousand IB Analysts at all banks worldwide.

Going into the current crisis, some people expected that work hours would improve because there would be less “face time” (i.e., pressure to stay in the office late for no reason).

Unfortunately, “Zoom time” and “24/7 availability” have replaced “face time.”

Since you’re always at home, you’re expected to respond to messages and work requests right away.

There’s no such thing as “taking a break” or “going out to eat” because many governments have eliminated normal human activities, and banks have fully embraced the restrictions.

But a few other factors have also made the hours worse:

  1. Non-Stop Zoom Pitching – Since MDs no longer travel to deliver pitches, they can do 10+ remote pitches per day. That means Analysts and Associates need to grind out even more presentations and meeting materials, even if the clients or potential clients barely look at them.
  2. Lack of Variety and Socializing – If you go to an office every day, you change your environment, socialize a bit, and see the human side of your co-workers. It’s easier to tolerate long hours when you can chat casually with your bosses in between assignments. But if you’re in a tiny apartment all day, working from 9 AM to 3 AM is a bit like a prison with internet access and better food.
  3. Difficulty Coordinating Presentations – Since multiple people work on most presentations, coordination is challenging when the team is remote. Issues that might take 15 minutes to resolve in an in-person meeting could drag on for hours when everyone is emailing or texting. Video calls may help, but they also create other issues, such as constant interruptions.
  4. Non-Stop Scam SPAC Deals – SPACs have become the equivalent of dot-com IPOs, and they involve a lot of copying and pasting of templates. You need to grind out many documents, but the work is really boring. Even something like a standard 3-statement model is more interesting because it’s different for each company, requiring some thought.
  5. Real Deal Activity Has Not Slowed Down – Finally, real and capital markets deals are still taking place, largely because central banks turned on the non-stop printing press, and money is cheaper than ever before (though that may be changing).

Putting these factors together, it’s easy to see why banking has become so miserable over the past year.

I do not think that every single 1st Year Analyst is working 105 hours per week, but I do think the hours have worsened significantly.

Many Analysts might be working more like 80-90 hours per week rather than 70-80.

That may not sound significant, but it’s the difference between 12.5 hours per day for 6 days with one day off and 12.1 hours per day with no days off.

I’ll suggest a few possible solutions, but let’s first review why the hours are so bad even in normal times:

What Do “Investment Banking Hours” Mean?

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Bankers (and most knowledge workers) typically measure their hours based on their time in the office. For example:

  • 9 AM: You arrived at the office.
  • 1 AM: You left the office. That was 16 hours! You worked 16 hours!

But this is not quite accurate because this person was not “working” this entire time.

They were probably waiting around for a client or a senior banker and reading the news.

They probably went to get food or coffee at some point.

And they probably spent some time chatting with co-workers about non-work topics.

Even if you subtract that time, the average workday is still long.

But it’s not quite as insane as it sounds because 80 hours in the office might equate to 60 hours of “real work” due to significant downtime.

There are exceptions, and some firms and groups do more “real work” than others.

Investment banking hours are much longer than those in other jobs because of four main reasons:

  1. Huge Clients Pay Your Bank Huge Fees: When a company is paying your bank $50 million, $10 million, or even $1 million to advise on a deal, you have to do whatever it wants at any time of the day.
  2. Unpredictable Work Demands: Unlike with engineering projects or audits at Big 4 firms, it’s difficult to use “project planning” for investment banking deals because the processes are more random and difficult to predict.
  3. Division of Labor Failures: Banks can’t necessarily hire more people to reduce the workload because one person has to “own” each aspect of a deal. Multiple people writing a CIM or building a model simultaneously would be like writing a novel with multiple authors.
  4. Culture: Since senior bankers all worked long hours on their way up the ladder, they assume that new entry-level bankers must suffer through the same rituals, similar to hazing in a fraternity.

Banks have tried to improve the work environment by offering “protected weekends” to junior bankers (i.e., no work from Friday night through Sunday morning).

The results of these policies were mixed, at best, as most people reported that the total number of hours did not change.

Yes, it was nice getting a free Saturday each month, but your hours on Sunday – Friday usually got worse as a result.

Here’s a bit more detail on each factor above:

Huge Clients Pay Your Bank Huge Fees

If a single executive at a client company gets upset over something, they could immediately cancel the deal, resulting in millions of dollars in lost revenue for your bank.

Bankers sell their time and attention – not a tangible product – so they need to provide it, even if a client calls at 1 AM on Christmas with an urgent request.

If a bank did 1,000 deals per year and earned $50,000 per deal, the service requirements would decline.

But that business model would also be far less profitable; it’s why you earn much less in Big 4 Transaction Services.

Unpredictable Work Demands

When you work on an M&A deal, much of the work happens in the beginning (creating marketing materials, presentations, and financial projections) and at the end (negotiating the definitive agreement, arranging the financing, resolving last-minute disagreements, etc.).

But in the middle of the process, random events, requests, and problems always come up.

You might get an acquisition offer from a buyer who dropped out but then came back at the 11th hour.

Or maybe your client just missed its earnings forecast, and you need to revamp your 10,000-row financial model.

Or maybe the CEO is having a bad day, and he wants to see unnecessary analysis, just for fun.

Other firms that deal with unpredictable work demands, such as web hosting companies and oilfield services companies, handle these issues by hiring teams to work in shifts.

One team works from 8 AM to 4 PM and fixes a website that just crashed; another team works from 4 PM to 12 AM and replaces a part of an oil pipeline.

But that approach doesn’t work well in banking because it’s more difficult to divide the labor (see below).

Division of Labor Failures

The problem in IB is that many deals are different and require client-specific knowledge.

You normally set up financial projections one way, but you had to modify rows 95-110 for one client because of an issue that came up in an email exchange with the CFO last year.

Or there are 17 versions of the company’s internal projections, and you’re using different versions in different slides of the management presentation – and only you know the logic.

You can come up with rough guidelines, but you can’t describe all the steps universally and comprehensively.

There might also be thousands or tens of thousands of documents for a single deal, so it’s impossible to “learn” everything quickly.

Senior bankers also want to ensure accountability by designating one go-to person for each part of a project.

If a VP wants to change a model, they do not want to ask 2-3 Analysts – just the one person in charge of it.

Cultural “Quirks”

Finally, there is enormous cultural gravity in favor of long hours because many senior bankers view them as “paying your dues.”

Plenty of bankers introduce more work or last-minute requests not because they’re necessary, but because they want extra analysis “just in case.”

Most meetings do not require 100-page pitch books; many clients barely even read the full presentations.

And most changes requested at 3 AM for a 9 AM meeting are not important – or they would have been requested much earlier.

Investment Banking Hours by Position and in Regions Outside the U.S.

In general, the hours tend to improve as you move up the ladder (though, again, work-from-home has upset this rule).

Investment Banking Associates will work a bit less than Analysts, VPs will work a bit less than Associates, and MDs even less.

A Managing Director still does not have a 40-hour workweek – it might be more like 50-60 hours per week – but it is more manageable.

Some groups, such as Equity Capital Markets, have also been known for reduced hours and better work/life balance (well, at least until SPACs came along).

Outside the U.S., people often argue that hours are “better” in London and other European locations and “worse” in Hong Kong and other parts of Asia.

There may be some truth to these claims, but they tend to be a bit exaggerated. Yes, your life will be marginally better or worse in some places, but it’s still investment banking.

Overall, working in a smaller, regional financial center (e.g., Houston in the U.S.) and at a regional boutique bank rather than an elite boutique or bulge bracket bank make more of a difference.

What’s the Solution to Investment Banking Hours During the Pandemic?

As you can see, even in a normal environment, it’s difficult to “improve” the hours in investment banking because of these cultural, work, and business model issues.

The pandemic has made it even more challenging, and I don’t think there’s a great solution until people finally return to the office.

A few partial solutions might be:

  1. Limit the Number of Pitches or the Materials Required for Pitches – Not every meeting needs a pitch book with dozens of slides, and the materials don’t need to be unique for each meeting. And not every MD needs to deliver 10+ Zoom pitches per day, as most of them will go nowhere.
  2. Set a “Hard Stop” for Each Day’s Work and Dedicated Break Times – For example, setting the cutoff at 11 PM or midnight would give junior bankers at least a bit of guaranteed free time. Creating shifts for time to run errands, get food, etc., during the day would also relieve some of the monotony.
  3. If Truly Necessary, Hire More Analysts – If an MD feels it is necessary to deliver 10 Zoom pitches per day, each with unique materials, make them responsible for finding and hiring more Analysts to do the work. If these pitches eventually generate advisory fees, the new hires will pay for themselves. And if not, the MDs will pitch less.

Normally, “hiring more people” is not a feasible solution because deal work is unpredictable and difficult to divide.

But much of the added workload this past year has come from speculative pitches, not deals – or nearly identical deals, like SPACs.

Pitch work is easier to divide, and a pitch does not necessarily require one dedicated Analyst because it’s more of a “one-time event.”

Banks seem to be hinting that they’ll hire more junior bankers to address these issues, but they also like to make their employees suffer, so who knows.

There is no perfect solution, but implementing one or more of these points might make investment banking hours more bearable.

And in the meantime, you can wait for “work from home” to end in approximately 567 years.

Investment Banking Hours: What to Expect and Why You Work So Much (2024)


Why do investment bankers work so much? ›

Investment banking hours are much longer than those in other jobs because of four main reasons: Huge Clients Pay Your Bank Huge Fees: When a company is paying your bank $50 million, $10 million, or even $1 million to advise on a deal, you have to do whatever it wants at any time of the day.

What are realistic hours for investment banking? ›

How Many Hours do Investment Bankers Work? Investment bankers work notoriously long hours, with the typical work week filling in 60-80 hours per week, and the occasional high-intensity work week that can push a banker to 100+ hours.

How to answer why you want to work in investment banking? ›

Answering the “why investment banking” interview question
  1. Fast-paced environment.
  2. Exposure to high profile transactions.
  3. Surround myself with intelligent and motivated people.
  4. Valuation & financial modeling work.
  5. Steep learning curve.
  6. Passion & love for finance.

How do you stand out in an investment banking interview? ›

Highlighting Relevant Skills and Experience

Showcase relevant experience, such as internships or relevant coursework. It's also important to tailor your skills and experience to the specific job you're applying for. Research the company and the position to understand what skills and experience they value most.

What is the Goldman Sachs 15 minute rule? ›

Have you ever heard of Goldman Sachs' 15-minute rule at Goldman Sachs? It means you have to respond to an email in 15 minutes or less no matter what. It doesn't matter if you: - showering - hiking in the mountains - attending your son's wedding - saving someone from a drowning vehicle Unreasonable?

Do investment bankers make 500k a year? ›

Investment Banking Career Path

As an associate, compensation rises significantly. The next level up is Vice President, which can make upwards of 500k. Highest on the food chain is the Managing Director, who makes anywhere from 500k to several million dollars.

Do investment bankers really work 100 hours? ›

In summary, I think you can generally expect most of your weeks in investment banking to be between 60 and 80 hours. I'd say 60 hours is doable, while 80 hours will really start to push you. I think anyone who says that they work 100 hours on average is probably lying.

How much PTO do investment bankers get? ›

Typically, entry-level investment bankers, for instance, can expect to receive around 10-15 days of vacation per year. This can increase to 20 or more days as they gain seniority and move up the ranks.

Do investment bankers work on Sunday? ›

In investment banking, as in fund management, Sunday is a day of work. More than that, it is often the day when all the important work that couldn't get done during the week is completed.

Why do you want to work in finance and investments? ›

One of the reasons for choosing finance as a career is the ample opportunities for professional growth and development it offers. A career in finance comes with clear progression routes. This industry has endless growth opportunities and the scope increases with experience.

What is investment banking in simple terms? ›

Investment banking is essentially a financial service provided by a finance company or a banking division to help large multinational corporations in their investment plans. Along with large companies and organisations, this service also helps high net worth individuals and governments to raise or create capital.

Why do you want to work for JP Morgan? ›

Impactful Work: JPMorgan Chase is known for its impactful and innovative work in the financial industry. I am drawn to the company's commitment to making a positive difference in the lives of its clients, employees, and communities.

What is a good weakness question for an investment banking interview? ›

Any “weakness” that you cite in an interview should: Be Real, But Not TOO Real – Pick something that is a real weakness, but which is not a “deal-breaker weakness.” For example, you could say that you sometimes take too long to make decisions, which makes projects take more time.

How can I impress an investment banker? ›

Impress the person you're speaking to by being charming, respectful, knowing their work experience, and asking thoughtful questions. Learn about any potential opportunities, the status of recruiting processes, or any advice to succeed in the interview.

What are good weaknesses for investment banking interview? ›

Some examples of common weaknesses in investment banking include public speaking, networking, and delegating tasks. Explain how you are working to improve your weaknesses. For example, you could talk about how you are taking a public speaking class or how you are practicing delegating tasks to your team members.

Do investment bankers really make that much? ›

Investment bankers are typically the highest-paid workers in the finance industry—high salaries are most prevalent even among younger employees. The starting salary for the typical investment banker exceeds that of most other finance positions, but working in this field has its challenges.

Why is investment banking so stressful? ›

Investment banking is a demanding and competitive field that can take a toll on your physical and mental health. Long hours, high pressure, and tight deadlines can cause stress, burnout, and anxiety. However, there are ways to cope with these challenges and maintain a healthy work-life balance.

Do investment bankers have a good life? ›

In the high-stakes and fast-paced world of finance, the work-life balance of Investment Bankers often teeters on a fine line. Known for their grueling hours and the high-pressure environment of financial markets, Investment Bankers are frequently at the mercy of market fluctuations and client demands.

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