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PostedSun, 28 May 2023 06:01:28 GMTbyAshanth Muthutantri

Hello,I have recently moved to the UK, and i have been trying to gather the treatment on a mutual fund where dividends paid are reinvested back as units in the fund. The fund would in this case would declare dividends in Singapore dollars which is then converted to the relevant number of units based on dividend date.Eg: Units held 1,000Dividend per each unit: 0.05 SGD/UnitDividend: SGD 50Unit Price at Dividend Date: SGD 20No of Units added to existing holding: 2.5Seeking guidance on how this income should be considered for UK tax purposes. Thank you!

PostedThu, 01 Jun 2023 05:33:13 GMTbyHMRC Admin 25

HiAshanth Muthutantri,
If the company pays out cash dividends, you will owe taxes on those payments even if you decide to reinvest the cash received.
If however, the company reinvests your dividends to purchase additional shares, you will not owe taxes until you sell those shares.
Thank you.

PostedThu, 01 Jun 2023 05:45:26 GMTbyAshanth Muthutantri

Thank you! This is very helpful.Just one more addition, this is an investment in a mutual fund. No cash is paid out and the dividend is directly reinvested as units of the fund.Just wanted to be sure that this would not change the position of when taxes would be due.Thank you!

PostedThu, 01 Jun 2023 06:13:22 GMTbyAshanth Muthutantri

Very useful!

PostedThu, 01 Jun 2023 14:39:34 GMTbyAshanth Muthutantri

Thanks much appreciated!

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PostedThu, 07 Dec 2023 15:34:46 GMTby

Hi HMRC Admin, I have a similar situation with an Employer's share scheme in Germany which paid out a dividends in cash into my UK bank account and a second dividend was automatically reinvested in the Employer's share scheme in Germany. Is this the same situation as above? where you said ; "If the company pays out cash dividends, you will owe taxes on those payments even if you decide to reinvest the cash received.If however, the company reinvests your dividends to purchase additional shares, you will not owe taxes until you sell those shares"Thank you

PostedTue, 12 Dec 2023 10:18:59 GMTbyHMRC Admin 10

Hi
Yes, the same guidance would apply.

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PostedTue, 12 Dec 2023 12:08:01 GMTby

Hi, that’s really helpful thank you.

PostedWed, 03 Jan 2024 14:28:13 GMTbyKevin

Hi With respect to the above posts, can you please confirm if this guidance also applies to UK Company share scheme dividends applied within UK?Also, if tax has been paid on previous years dividends that have been automatically reinvested, can a rebate be claimed?Thanks

PostedSat, 06 Jan 2024 17:30:51 GMTbyjohngold1 johngold1

Hi HMRC adminI have Accumulation investment funds and I have received dividends of approx £3000, but the dividends not received in cash, they are reinvested into the funds. Is this the same situation as above where you said ;"If the company pays out cash dividends, you will owe taxes on those payments even if you decide to reinvest the cash received.If however, the company reinvests your dividends to purchase additional shares, you will not owe taxes until you sell those shares" ?i.e. do I need to report these dividends in my Self Assessment?Thank you.

PostedWed, 10 Jan 2024 14:42:19 GMTbyHMRC Admin 5

HiKevin

Yes it does. For previous years you would need to submit a claim in writing and say that you are claiming overpayment relief. The earlier year that can be reviewed is the 19/20 tax year.

Thank you

PostedThu, 11 Jan 2024 16:19:39 GMTbyHMRC Admin 5

Hijohngold1 johngold1

If the company reinvested the funds then no you don't declare them.

Thank you

PostedFri, 12 Jan 2024 12:33:33 GMTbyKevin

Many thanks for the response and clarification.

PostedTue, 23 Jan 2024 13:37:07 GMTbyMikeR14

Can I ask if this applies only to mutual funds, or is it shares as well? e.g. do I need to declare anything from the United Utilities DRIP dividend reinvestment scheme?

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PostedTue, 23 Jan 2024 14:58:07 GMTby

Hello Admin:Could you be a bit more specific on the definition of "company" here in this earlier quote:"If the company pays out cash dividends, you will owe taxes on those payments even if you decide to reinvest the cash received.If however, the company reinvests your dividends to purchase additional shares, you will not owe taxes until you sell those shares. "Here's a specific example: if I am holding a mutual fund (or individual stock or ETF) in a brokerage account, and I set that account to automatically re-invest the dividends back into the fund, would that be covered the same as the example you give above?In this case, I am not receiving and re-investing the dividends myself. A third party is doing it on my behalf and I am given the additional shares rather than the cash dividend.

PostedFri, 26 Jan 2024 10:47:41 GMTbyjohngold1 johngold1

Hi everyone. The HMRC admins on here may be giving incorrect advice. I understand that from HMRC that generally you DO have to declare dividends in your self assessment even if they are not received in cash, i.e additional shares or investments back into a fund. I understand that these dividends may be taxable,especially if they are above £2000 Could the HMRC admins on this forum please double-check and respond here please? Thanks.

PostedFri, 26 Jan 2024 10:52:35 GMTbyHMRC Admin 25

HiMikeR14,
If the company automatically reinvests then no

PostedFri, 26 Jan 2024 11:31:52 GMTbyHMRC Admin 25

Hid3a350,
As you have stated that you have set the account to reinvest then these dividends are not taxable.
Thank you.

PostedTue, 30 Jan 2024 16:35:10 GMTbyHMRC Admin 8

Hi,
If the company automatically reinvests the dividends to buy more shares, no. if you choose to reinvest them, yes.
Thankyou.

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FAQs

Are dividends reinvested in mutual funds? ›

As a mutual fund shareholder, you can choose how dividend distributions are handled. You may choose to have them paid to you in cash (this may be helpful to supplement retirement income) or you could elect to reinvest them.

What is reinvesting dividends into more units called? ›

A Dividend Reinvestment Plan, or DRIP, is the process of automatically reinvesting dividends into additional whole and fractional shares of a company's stock. One of the ways investors can see growth in their portfolios is through compounding returns.

What happens to reinvested dividends? ›

Dividend reinvestment is an automatic process that an investor can set up through their brokerage account. Once set up, the broker will automatically reinvest dividend payments of stocks set up for reinvestment to buy more shares of that stock with the dividend payment.

What is a downside of dividends and capital gains being reinvested in a mutual fund? ›

Even when distributions are reinvested, shareholders pay taxes on the amounts they receive (unless their assets are held in a tax-advantaged account, such as a traditional IRA or a Roth IRA).

Do I claim dividends that are reinvested? ›

When dividends are reinvested on your behalf and used to purchase additional shares or fractions of shares for you: If the reinvested dividends buy shares at a price equal to their fair market value (FMV), you must report the dividends as income along with any other ordinary dividends.

Are dividends paid out or reinvested? ›

A dividend is a reward (usually cash) that a company or fund gives to its shareholders on a per-share basis. You can pocket the cash or reinvest the dividends to buy more shares of the company or fund.

Is it better to have dividends reinvested? ›

Cashing out instead will preclude you from multiplying your investment. It May Take Longer To Achieve Long-Term Financial Goals: Dividend reinvestment leads to compounded growth. This makes it easier (and faster) to achieve your long-term financial goals versus keeping cash in a savings account.

Do you need to declare reinvested dividends? ›

If the company pays out cash dividends, you will owe taxes on those payments even if you decide to reinvest the cash received. If however, the company reinvests your dividends to purchase additional shares, you will not owe taxes until you sell those shares.

Can you turn off reinvest dividends? ›

Once you own an equity that pays dividends, you can adjust whether or not you'd like to reinvest those dividends at any time.

Is it better to sell mutual funds before or after dividends? ›

Selling a fund prior to the distribution will generally result in more capital gain or less loss than if you sell the shares after the distribution, if you only take into account market price changes reflecting the distribution. Selling shares after the distribution usually will yield less gain or more loss.

Why do I have capital gains if I didn't sell anything? ›

That's because mutual funds must distribute any dividends and net realized capital gains earned on their holdings over the prior 12 months. For investors with taxable accounts, these distributions are taxable income, even if the money is reinvested in additional fund shares and they have not sold any shares.

How do I avoid paying taxes on mutual funds? ›

The simplest way to avoid this is to own mutual funds in tax-advantaged retirement accounts such as IRAs and 401(k)s. You can also make sure to hold the investments for the long term, so that if you do owe taxes, you'll pay them at the lower long-term capital gains rate.

What happens to dividends in mutual funds? ›

Shareholders receive a set amount for each share they hold. Mutual fund investors may take dividend distributions when they are issued or reinvest the money by buying additional fund shares. Mutual funds that receive dividends from their investments are required by law to pass them to their shareholders.

Do Vanguard dividends get reinvested? ›

If you sell the entire position one day or more before the dividend-payable date, your distribution will be paid in cash. If, however, you sell an entire position within the one-day time frame of the security's payable date, the dividend may be reinvested, resulting in additional shares.

Why does the price of mutual funds drop when you get dividends? ›

If your stock or balanced fund is paying out a dividend or capital gains distribution, or both, the net asset value (NAV) of the fund will drop by the per share amount of the distributions (most bond funds accrue interest so that dividend distributions do not reduce net asset value).

Can you live off mutual fund dividends? ›

Depending on how much money you have in those stocks or funds, their growth over time, and how much you reinvest your dividends, you could be generating enough money to live off of each year, without having any other retirement plan.

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